misterSD: You probably ignore it Freebo, but Aimagi is Blazin
I know who Blazin is - but since he become your hater I can't do anything about it. We are always responsible for our haters and take care of them. I have no right to tell you what to do with it.
But still I will say "few" words about it.
As you know what happens on servers between admins (since there are no official servers now - at least for a while) is the only problem of those admins. Haters will always hate admins and any action of admins - no matter if they are too liberal with rules (like Youda was) or too conservative with strick rules (like I was sometimes) - it will still create problems.
misterSD is between and tries hard to solve problems technically, less psychologically. Unfortunatelly he is Discussing with his haters (still) - which can only create more hate because if somebody programmed himself against somebody - no matter what admin does - he will be ridiculed or hated anyway. Even if his actions makes logical sense any "athority" who tries to fix problems between people - will gain enemies. So doesn't matter if admin is using logic in his actions - It's not about logic - only about emotions.
So you will never solve problems between both of you. Admin who works hard for server and players will be always considered a dictator. Admin who doesn't give a damn won't be hated so much but at the same time he is not an admin but a little girl and 100% useless as admin - well maybe he should be called "owner" of server or "programmer" but not an admin if he does nothing. So there is no solution for it.
What I would reccomend again is not going into discussions with haters - no argument you use will make them stop, because haters are keyboard warriors - who would never hate you in real life, but hiding behind the keyboard they can always show worse of their negative emotions. Sometimes without reason.
I don't know the story between misterSD and Blazin - so it has to stay between them but what I said above shows - there is no solution. If they meet in real life - I'm sure there would be no so hard between them.
BTW I told misterSD 2 months ago almost - that forcelist - even though it's technically amazing tool in "perfect world" - can bring more hate on his server than banning people or simply kicking them without question. Because haters always come back to hated server (no logic here) and if they are being forced to force list - they build more anger and hate than they would if they were perm muted, perm banned. I knew it will happen with force list - because any rules I trie to put on my servers for people in 2016 - more works and technical solutions - more negetivity followed it.
So sometimes is better just use simple rules like I said before. Mute insulters, kick and ban hackers. Less work, less problems with players.
misterSD: Maybe he has right about smirnoff, but he is not better than him ....
This is what my comment was about. That
new incarnation of SadamHussein was accepted as equal admin of "official" discord group, leave alone his probable hacking, but insulting, arrogance, and (admited by himself) selfishness and desire to be "in the center" are the last things which qualify people to be admins of main so called "official" groups. Unless it's about politics - of course there goes always the worse liars, money whores, idiots and manipulative puppets. But that doesn't mean it's the way it should be.
But back to Discord and SadamHusein (AKA Smirnoff) - it doesn't make any sense at all. I have nothing against Sadam personally at all (and I mean that - no BS) - but considering what he was saying for years on servers, his attitude - he is the last to be responsible and fair admin who cares about users more than about himself. Not everybody can be admins - it's that simple.
misterSD is different man. At least he tries to be fair, help many players (maybe it wasn't so good like that 2-3 years ago but last 15 months he is trying hard) - but no matter how you try with technical stuff, and how much time you put in your server and "automatical solutions" - if you are not good enough psychologist - you will always do mistakes causing hate.
Once again.
Sometimes is better not to do much - just mute insulters, kick and ban hackers and ignore discussing with haters who are on emotions and logic or good of others is not important at the moment of hate speach. It can happen to any of us. It's a game and should be way to relax not to create more and more problems in peoples life.
Unless one have very borring life - he can come here and create problems. This is how hate in CryMP.Net started to grow years ago. Haters thought that they will have some power over users here - so it made their ego grow.
Hating any rulles towards newbies, any fair restrictions towards pros. It's normal reaction for some people.
But like (former hacker and current admin) Forsaken has already said - That I'm (Freebo) ignorant - because people should have the right to insult people it's "normal in games" and Freebo is arrogant that he want to change it - because anybody should insult anytime they want - and he will even fight for this "freedom" because Freebo is arrogant ignorant thinking he can put anywhere those "crazy rules" like "no insulting please", "try to help newbies when you see them trying to learn", "give more chances to new guys", "don't overuse admin commands"... and so on.
If you see opinions like that from "community members" - you already know - there is no solution. People don't even think what they say. They are just parrots of the program.
All they can do best is hate - because internet and hiding behind the keyboard gave them this opportunity. They think it's for their freedom and actually they are programmed to believe that hate is OK and normal. They are not very bright though.
It is NOT. And here is how to check it (again)
To haters who can read
Please - do this simple thought experiment
- imagine you meet admin you hate so much in real life, you set a meeting with him in some point on the map. In some beautiful city, on neutral ground, Let's say in Amsterdam or... Sarajevo - meet the person you insulted and hated so much as a keyboard wardior - and tell him right in the face - that he is "low man, asslicker, idiot and liar" - just imagine that and expression that he would have on his face after hearin it - if you can do it - that means you really mean that hate and you have real reasons to do that.
If you can't do it in real life - and you can do it only in internet like some pussy ignorant - that means you're and idiot who believed that freedom of speach = freedom of mindless insults, like some brainwashed people do believe nowadays.
Freedom of speech and freedom to post own opinion is a civilized rule of civilized world. But public insults produced to make you feel good are the lowest way to express yourself and spread propaganda that insults = opinions - it's exactly what you were programmed to believe in.
Following the program doesn't make you smart at all. It's exactly the opposite. But who would think on his own right now? There are smartphones doing that. People don't have to be smart anymore, right?
There is no fix for hate in this network as long as people don't use their brains and logic.
That's why my only advice is always: try to ignore your haters and do the job of admin with fair, civilized rules. There are many servers to play on. Anybody can create own server. Entering servers just to insult anybody, especially admin who is a sponsor of fun on that server shows lack of any logic. We've said it here many times before - but people still do it...
Besides they come on server they hate, they insult there users and admins - BUT NO ONLY THAT - they also say the game is dead - yet they play there every day - it's double nonsense more like a comedy skit. I won't post the names of those people but I've been posting some logs before. I see that it happens also on misterSD's server. Sad masochists. They toruture themselves so much... but this hate is effective - game can be really dead thanks to them.
Anyway.
Aigami was 100% right about SadamHusein being admin of Discord there but misterSD is right about insults on his server. It will never be fixed if admins are not banning haters and if haters hate servers and admins so much they enter their server daily like some kind of masochist just to insult in free time. Flying circus and kindergarten.
Seriously few more months like that... and this network will vanish from internet. It' costs time, money and dedication of people - and hate is growing. It will die just like other parts and other ideas connected to the network did thanks to that attitude.
Few more hates and destruction achieved. I've predicted it 3 years ago. I was just hoping people won't allow the hate spread and they will start to use their brains to stop insulting and kicking out those who can't stop for many reasons.
But if some people can't just have fun and they need to hate and looks like it's growing...
There is ZERO sense to support this network. Better to make it closed just for group of 20-30 friends in this case. I think this is the future after watching what's happening. No respect for civilized network rules.