Improved ban system

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  • Zi;

    Nobody has mood for trolling here, seriously.

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  • SashsBrest

    Ok)

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  • Freebo

    Well ok. I'll answer this before I go for a working week... and return on weekend. "If it were me, I would just ban all these insulters here, no exceptions, I don't have problem with that, but just imagine that wide spread of bad lies about the network after in Russian circles." Lies about network will be spread anyway by those who don't respect anybody or anybody's work. So the idea is to stick with our old rules in summer. Because anyway - no matter what you do you will be hated, like it was with me. The idea is to go with moral compas and if there are haters who will always hate it - it's their problem if it will be hard for them to understand that rules are not to harm anyone but the opposite. And opinion about network doesn't mean anything for players. If somebody wants to kill it - he will do it anyway. I just hope that people will start to play nicely. Rules on official servers are very easy to understand. If people don't like them - they can create 10 private servers and have all the players there. "And about using cheats, where do you take confidence to say that others don't use them, like globder? He never disclosed any information and knowingly abused all those glitches on servers, yet we still tolerate it." Good point. Of course I have no confidence that Globder wasn't using cheats. But I don't think he was using software cheats. I know his personality which is not like that. But I'm 100% sure he was using some tricks and special settings or simply macros on mouse or keyboard. His kind of punch attack wouldn't work every time if he wasn't using something more than standard stuff. I don't consider it straight cheating though. But if he could at least share (doesn't have to be with details) this secret a bit - would be more fair and people would respec that a lot. I know for sure that he doesn't like to share things like that - because he was mad at me when I made my "advanced jumping" tutorial video with mouse wheel juimping which he was fan of and reminded me about people who were using it before. He thought that less people know about its better and we can enjoy making fun of those "noobs" who don't know that. I saw him saying few times on my jump and fly school server - before CryMP.Net times - when showing off with high jumps and people were saying "how?" - he was answering "lol noobs" and things like that. Very pro and respectful. He even said that nobody should share his tricks that he knows for fighting in Crysis - because it's like fighting with enemy - like real war - you're better when they don't know it. But the problem that I've pointed out there - was that if people don't know things like some glitches in Crysis - for example "no recoil scope aiming", WallJumping and other glitches used by medium and pro player - they simply call this kind of "pro" a hacker and they leave the server. I saw some people leaving my server during GameSpy times - right after I was trying to teach them jumping or flying. After I was telling them how to do it. They didn't listen - they called me a hacker - and that's it. They were saying "no... it's a cheat how can you fly with speed so long and your energy never ends". "Because in air you don't lose energy" - I replied. "No it's a cheat" and they were leaving. So imagine what Globder's box punching was looking like for them. Considering that he wasn't even trying to explain that it's not a cheat. Just making fu of them. I saw him air punching 2 newbies on my server in July 2015 after they had nice fight and fun 1 vs 1. He killed them 20 times in a row saying things Like: "now you disconnect noobs" and of course they were out next minute. Real pro player with strong honour and respect to players. Yes. I don't think he was using cheats in therms of software hacks - but he was using some settings. He admited that one day that it's great to test things like that and discover something people don't know about which can be used during the fight. Or maybe just multipunch thanks to macros? It was something unfair to use in terms of fair play - when people don't know how. I'm not a fan to share everything first day with all the details - because people get lazy - but give a hint, help them after they try and train and finally train together when they know everything - this is amazing. But he was not using just keyboard punch shortcut or standard mouse one click punch. If he was fair - he would simply at least say a bit about it. But he loved to do it for his own pleasure ONLY. "I'm not a teacher", "when I was a beginner nobody helped me". What kind of excuse is that ? When I was a beginner Cricle-Jump Flyer nobody helped me. I just saw people flying. I had to find my own way to make it work for me. Took me few months. If I had a teacher would be easier. That didn't stop me to make detailed tutorial about it with description and tips how to make switches in the air. This is the way it should work. You are pro at some glitches - you teach others and you're happy when they can do things like that. That also makes you work more on your skills - because your students are getting better and there is fair competition. This is what best in Crysis. Not keeping skills and glitches to yourself and play alone... if so SP would be best for it. So some glitches or settings if are not shared - look like a hack. Again imagine 2 players using no recoil scope aiming with Scar - and killing everybody in 3 seconds from 100 meters all the time. If nobody but them knew this glitch - those 2 players would be considered hackers - 100%. And if they decide to share info about this gitch - this becomes official stuff and nobody would call them hackers. Globder was using something - didn't want to share it - or even say a little about it - this is why many people could think he was hacker. Especially Mesa players who played Crysis for 3 years - hiding in the bushes. Most of them called me hacker in 2010. Because while they were playing 3 years on Mesa - they didn't see WallJump ever. "And no, Sashs is not bringing Smirnoff here because of insulting + cheating factor, rather than Smirnoff removing him from list of moderators when both would be online at same time on server, kind of compensation for that." Yeah maybe it's just that or also that. I can't speak for him. But still I think that Sashs is capable to change his insults to something less brutal easily in the future. I believe in that. I'm sure he can agree with that soon. Most of the time he is just trolling without any detectable hate - and it makes deifference. So he can be cool in the future. But we will see in few weeks. "And about new client and SSM, yes, there is gonna be lot of rework, starting with banning everyone who refuses to update within 1 month. I am not about to tolerate these people knowingly having outdated client in order to cheat or avoid getting banned on profile ID (by using temporary IDs from old old system). They will have 1 month, no less, no more. Another great thing about new client is no game files will be modified, so you can fully enjoy sv_cheatprotection enabled, not even main.lua or InstantAction.lua is gonna be modified. Trying to cheat with VPN, well, bad luck, no more ;)" Looks fine. Sure - some people using old client some new - that doesn't make sense as before and has to be fixed finally because of old ID system abuse. Wow. So finally main.lua an InstantAction.lua won't be excluded from checking for differences? This is great. It could be easily used for higher jumps, higher speed and other things like that - which we could observe sometims. Just because it had to be excluded from the check list to make client work. Those two files - I saw it as a problem right in 2014 - because I knew what can be changed there on user side - from my tests for MapsExplorer mod in 2011. That changes a lot. I even think it was the reason GerCry started to kick our users. When DieAerzte saw those two files - he was ok and he excluded them for a while - but then they probably saw that it's not safe so our client was banned there. Those changes are of course easy to detect by admins or players who have eyes - but harder by automatic protection. So some would easily cheat with just those two files on servers where admins are not on-line. If from now even those 2 files won't be allowed to modify unless server allows it - it's a huge change alone. Good luck though during the week.

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  • SashsBrest

    Cheater back again,we play 1 vs 1 with 65-64 score,very goo play,and in mesa he play like total noob XD,all time use chat commands, buy truck in tonnel in fight for destroy driving car,hero mode and etc etc) and same same history like Smirnoff i am old players 2008 year,last time i play in 2014,and all old players first see this funny nik name!One in one style of play :) SadamHussein=Smirnoff=KingKong SadamHussein from Bosnia, Smirnoff with VPN from Monaco,Kong from Barcelona VPN-power XDDDD https://i.imgur.com/SJUkqzs.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AOy56yN.jpg keep your eyes on him

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  • Freebo

    Sashs - Sadam will have many identities in the future. Not just that. Just wait for my long text on Friday/Saturday. All 3 years old story is there with dots to connect. Also the moment when Sadam discovered magical world of VPN finally - is there - after hatig VPN so much for the first 2 years. Now he even randomly switches countries which prooves this VPN is not for privacy reasons like it should be but to cheat? It's ok for now - before we fix the system. You can make videos for people if you have the time. I will be back on Friday. I have to work. Have fun.

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  • SashsBrest

    Thx Freebo,i look forward to your post 👍👍👍👍

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  • Freebo

    Ok. As I promised - those who wanted this clarification tekst about Smirnoff being Sadam, parts of public logs and connecting all the dots about whole Smirnoff deception which caused many problems last year. You can check it below - throw away few hours of your time - and answer there if you really need to. It's very, very long so those who are not interested in subject - don't even click there please. [chapter]

    Smirnoff = SadamHusein, Cheats and lies to solve finally Please copy the link below and paste it to your browser: crymp.net/forum/thread.php?id=353

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  • Lukas

    He should be banned as Smirnoff, Sadam, or whatever name he will use, he did stupid things and should be punished for it, he has already got too many chances to behave nice but he threw them away and acted like typical internet hero... I really dont understand why is this one cheater and insulter such a big deal? Just ban him if he is cheating or mute him if he is insulting, its very simple. It should have been done a long time ago... Btw. I think Im moderator (didnt know who gave me rights, apparently Youda but forgot to told me about it) and I will ban him on HS servers if I recognize him, I should do that in the past but I wasnt sure if he is cheating or not (cheating is for me the biggest problem and disgrace to the community) You are talking about fresh start... It would be fresh start if admins started to do something and be active, otherwise it will be same bad joke. Promising that if somebody hacks or insults from now - and doesn't response to our request to stop - he will be muted, kicked, banned and his account(s) removed from the network. I hope this sentence will be true and actions will be taken if something like that occur.

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  • Freebo

    Hey Lukas. THIS IS EXACTLY what I meant by Fresh start in Spring. You thought what I meant ? continuation of this circus and believing that everybody will change attitude ? I believe some will - but some probably never. No man there will be NO CONTINUATION. That text was to make the CHANGE finally. I wouldn't put so much time in that if it was only about Sadam. I don't have time for it anymore. As you could see in that text I would be and idiot dealing with the same stuff still. It was about closing the chapter right with spring 2018 Thing that should be done 3 years ago but nobody wanted to fix problem. I was planning to post new rules (100% same as the old ones - but this time really WORKING) soon with spring. But since you said that - already admins can start muting insulters, banning certain players without discussion with them anymore. Insulters and cheaters can play on private servers. No problem. Full freedom. Maybe those servers will be even more popular. Who knows. But on official ones this can't happen. Otherwise it will be like it was for 3 years. And you can trust me - it cost me a lot to ask for those changes. No more asking. I trust and believe in people, I treat them with respect to their personalities - but if all they can do is deceive, destroy and bring hate everything we've done - it becomes crazy. Theese are real terrorists. Those on TV are fake and distant. I hope people who are insulting a bit right now or those who use cheats or unfair tricks - will understand and start to be ok on - at least on official servers which should be safe. If not - smart admins will start to act properly without listening to complaints and arguments anymore. It's so easy to recognize who he really is and what atmosphere he creates on server. So easy. Thanks man for the support. It means a lot.

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  • SashsBrest

    I'm glad that at last all my words were confirmed Thx Freebo!

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