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  • Freebo

    I agree that maybe now is the moment we should promote it mostely. But at the same time it\'s the moment when people are not using internet as often as during autumn and winter. So maybe september will be better ? :) I also see it little different because I always wanted Crysis to last for years - like next 10, 20 years. Waiting for old players to come from time to time. This is why I plan to work on things for Crysis. I also saw during the years how ignorant people are. They never wanted to learn things in Crysis - just playing a little and leaving it for another, new game. I saw that many times. The one thing is sure here - \"Everyday Crysis\" is dead (that one I loved the most because we could meet new accidental people there each day ) - Now we will have only Crysis for real fans. This is why playin on weekends is very good idea. It was always my plan because I prefered to make maps, mods and videos during the week - instead of just having fan in Crysis and not creating new things. So I was telling friends that I will be on-line one day a week (no matter if someone comes or not). Just waiting on-line. Now I see that it\'s not only about me - but about whole game. This is very sad. But it\'s really the only way to meet many people on servers. Set some special \"Crysis Day\". I think the best day after the summer will be Friday evening. I will be that time on-line for hours waiting for old and new players with new maps, videos, etc. But Crysis servers should be on-line whole week. After I will finish my www.Crysis1.com portal - it will be on-line for next 10 - 20 years with information and istructions how to get it working on live servers. For me it\'s important to keep this MP alive even for 2-5 players. But no matter what - game has to evolve. If it\'s gonna look and work all the time like it has in 2007 (prepared for old PCs)- chances that new players will try it are close to 0. Crysis MP is not dead game. It can be moded, changed almost without limits - This is what makes it immortal. Sad thing is most of people forgot about that. Even those who call themselves fans. I remember even Zi wrote in april after hearing of GameSpy\'s death - that he will probably leave this game after GS shutdown - and that we should enjoy last 2 months that left - (finally few days later he started to work on his great solution) - so even for him it was close to leave it. I just couldn\'t belive what I\'m reading - I\'m sure I would never say that I will leave it (breaks from time to time - sure but stop it ? - no way) - even if I was the last one. So this is what I don\'t understand: All \"fans\" saying that game is dying. Question: is dying for who ? For 95% of players who doesn\'t care about it (who cares about them anyway) or for players who really care ? I think those are 2 different things. If you talk about 300 ignorant players in this MP - game is already dead - 100% sure. If you want to have players who understand what it\'s all about - it will never die - but needed to be refreshed from time to time. Sandbox, SafeWriting, Scatchup, Photoshop - those are great tools. This is also the chance to get 100% new players here. Forget about losers who left the game just like that. Work on it for those who really care and for those nice people who never new Crysis before but will discover it thanks to our videos, websites and very new stuff created by the community. It\'s up to you also. Why don\'t you make forum alive everyday ? why don\'t you use \"www.crysis1.com\" forums to show visitors that game is alive ? You prefer to talk about things on Skype? But it should be here on Forums like this one or at least on forums of my portal. I\'d call it amazing laziness of real community. Waiting for others to come and at the same time not showing them that community and MP IS alive? The best promotion are live conversations about the living MP - not just saying that it dies all the time. I mean what is this ? Life of MP depends on US and only US. Not on some guys who play 100 different MP each day and who will never find out how great Crysis can be. Wake up and be optimistic. Even 1 day a week with 5 players is good enough to say MP IS ALIVE. I\'m sure that promotion of new things in Crysis will make new players come. How many of them 5, 10, 30. Doesn\'t matter. Crysis MP is not dead as long as it has at least 2 players. Stop this pessimism. Keep positive conversations. This MP is worth it and belive me or not - with it\'s flexibility it has great future.

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  • Lukas

    Why don\'t I use your website? Simply I haven\'t what to write. I\'m not kind of people who can write about one thing for ages, also in real life I\'m not very talkative. That\'s what I\'m and nobody will change that. I usually write something only if I\'m not satisfied with something, this is an example. Firstly I would like to specify what I want to achieve. I already understood that the game when we had full servers is surely gone. So we will play only one day in a week. Problem is that we haven\'t enough players. But how to gain more players? I don\'t want to despise your work. I know that you do maximum for this game. But after all it is not successful in a way we need. (gaining new players) I always watched your videos, same with your website, although I didn\'t write anything. But how many players did you get into the game through your website or videos after GS shutdown? I think it\'s not even 5 people. (yeah, I know I didn\'t get into the game a single new person but maybe together we will be more successful) On our gathers I\'ve never met a single new person, only the old ones btw. I really appreciate your work but if we want to gain new players we have to do something more visible. I thought about some epic trailer which would catched some people. Then we can write to some popular person to promote our work (it can be that trailer or anything else), I mean eg. some youtuber who has some gaming fanbase. (it may not be just one youtuber) We would describe him our story, what happened, etc. The trailer should be very nice and catchy. It\'s a lot of work which shall be done by someone who really knows what he is doing. I think that without promotion of some youtuber it will be the same as with your videos, it will got some views but probably most of them will be from your real fans who already knows Crysis. To Freebo: I hope I didn\'t insult you, I didn\'t mean it bad, it\'s my honest point of view on things you do.

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  • Freebo

    Thanks for the answer - No you didn\'t insult me :) I appreciate every time when somebody says what he thinks. Unless he is being rude. If everybody was like you we could have constructive discussions. Unfortunatelly people don\'t care - they remain mute. They just want to play and get things for free :) I agree with you that to make this MP more alive we need some Extra promotion on some youtube chanell that has at least 100.000 subscribers - I\'m sure it won\'t be a problem as soon as we will prepare some great video about it. But still on our websites we can show that we are here, that comunity is alive. Belive me I was searching for Crysis things in internet for last 4 years (looking for solutions that finally Zi made for us lately) and I always saw only few messages on forums about Crysis 1, about modding it and about playing it also :) Imagine others looking in google for infos about Crysis 1 now. They will find 10-20 posts - all of them 1 months old :) They will be sure - this game is dead. Having our forums alive each week - will always tell someone who searchs google - that people still play this game and still care about it\'s future. This is what I ment by this \"laziness\" thing. As you know talking on forums requires 20 minutes a week :) - during those 20 minutes you can answer with 5 quite long posts - Imagine now only 20 people sendending only 5 posts each week = 100 posts - and still people are lazy to do even this. It\'s killing this MP also - in the eyes of otside viewers. This is what I ment :) But I agree with you - we need super promotion the one you have said about. With our we will have 5-10 players and that\'s it. About your question - as the matter of fact I\'m sure I convinced more than 5 players - because of my videos or websites - but it\'s not the point in my case :) - because I never cared about amount of players (that\'s why my 3,5 servers never were cracked) - but the quality of players. That\'s true that I will miss old Crysis with new players accidentaly entering servers - I could enter my server each day just for 15 minutes (when I have just some free time) and meet new people there, teach great things that are possible in basic Crysis - it was amazing - but it\'s gone. Now we need to show also new things that are possible thaks to the tools I wrote about. My job was always to promote Crysis on it\'s high and very high settings with new things in it. Things that will show that CryEngine 2 + Crysis 1 + Sandbox 2 + SafeWriting are better than most of new FPS MP. Promoting Crysis as game from 2007 on low settings with basic maps won\'t make sense in 2015 that is coming. New people will not care. But again - I also think we should make some trailer for Crysis - to show the way it works now and will work for next years. I will as always make videos - this time more \"trailer\" kind not just 20 minutes \"tests\" videos as before :). I will start new gaming channel in 2015 and will talk about Crysis a lot. But my channels will never be most popular because I don\'t make videos about 10000 games and never will. So it doesn\'t matter here - because for real promotion we need to make some 2-3 videos - or at least one very good trailer - that will be posted on some super popular gaming youtube channel in near future (no hurry with it now). I\'m afraid before that we have to make some finall versions of MP solutions - without errors, etc. - the one we have now is great for us - i love it - but will be not enough for watchers of those trailers. All have to look more pro. This is also thing I want to work on in near future. And yes - the most important as you all agree: The only way to make it all work in MP is to find one / two days during the week (5-7 hours) when all fans and admins will be on-line on servers - waiting for others to join. Than we need to promote those gaming days as Crysis MP Special Days or something :) People will be sure that checking servers that time, they will find others to play with. But for now we need to keep at least forums alive. At least this is what we can do for our dying Crysis - without any effort. Just 20 minutes a week :) Sorry for long post again - but you\'ve asked for it ;)

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  • Zi;

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Crysis+1+Multiplayer Only 50% of Results here are about real Crysis 1 multiplayer, other are about Wars, Crysis 2,Crysis 3. Shame. Here was our trailer for servers and it was pretty nice, even with great music, but only ~320 views. It nicely shows that Crysis multiplayer is powerful and there can be lot of things - like this AlienMod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDIPYsic5es.

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  • Freebo

    Yes but it\'s not that. We need trailer about Crysis 1 MP - with all it\'s features - best wuld be at least 3-4 trailers. Each about other things. Each not longer than 2 minutes because today\'s players brains are so destroyed - that people can\'t watch more than 2 minutes in a row. Sad but true. Crysis 1 never had any real trailer - unless you think about official ones with animation - not real gameplays. I will make few this year. I was never fan of making short movies because I wanted to show atmosphere of this MP or maps, etc. But I also always wanted to start working on short Crysis videos that shows fragments of the game - but at the same time in 2 minutes can show a lot of it. I think this is the moment it\'s not the option - but the moment when this kind of videos are needed :( At least it is some motivation to change habits and finally produce short forms. Sending it to some popular channel will be harder thing. I hope I won\'t be the only one.

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  • Zi;

    In the upcoming version of client:

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  • Freebo

    Great man! This is exactly what I ment - when I was talking about more pro look of client solution :) I hope soon we will have final, more functional version. Better and more flexible than original, with few customizable options for the future. Keep working man - and take your time. No need to hurry with it now - It\'s better to work longer and make it perfect than rush. We are not EA. No pressure :) Just ideas, discussion, tests, tests, tests - and final, amazing product!

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  • Zi;

    Now it looks like this: There is even \"login name pwd\" command, and if you put it to your autoexec.cfg, you have got auto-login.

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  • Freebo

    Very Nice :) I think console shoud start or: 1) the way you said - when you click \"Internet game\" button in menu - or 2) just automaticly when you open the game - so list of servers would show right after the game starts. I think first idea would be better of course. (Starting it with \"~\" would be the worst solution here). I\'m not sure about loging in yet - how it finally works. But about joining servers: - I\'m sure that typing commands like \"join\" is not very comfortable for most lazy players. Nobody does it in any MP anyway :) Because mouse clicking on server\'s list is not possible in console - it should at least be like \"minimum\" typing requred. If autologin is possible thanks to custom autoexec file - so all that would be required later to join server should be just number of server. Just \"10\" for example. Typing \"join 10\" (even if it\'s in-game) is still less comfortable for some players - than just clicking on servers list on website. So if it\'s possible better remove command \"join\" from client - and make it just waiting just for \"ID\" as default \"command\" that is required. So typing \"10\" would start the server. The rest looks amazing. BTW. I think that maybe the list of servers can be moddified a little - to make it clear - and at the same time better than old original Crysis list. So if it\'s possible - maybe to group 5767 and 6156 servers is a good idea ? Just Green ones go always on the top and red ones always goes on the bottom. Depending on the version of game player enters different servers will be on top :) Of Course also disabling red ones for command line would be nice here. So after trying to enter the number of red one - player would get info that it\'s different version of game that he is using. Unless you want to hide all red ones for good? - But in this case players won\'t see how many players are on-line in other version - so maybe better to let red stay - just moved to the bottom and changed to gray like disabled ?

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  • DSnipeFunk

    Sweet and simple :) Too much to read :) I won\'t bother. But skipping between the lines, here is what I have to say: It is not Crysis that is dead. Its the community. If the community was stronger, someone BIG would have taken over from Gamespy. Those that are the most alive are people like Zi who creating a tool for the community - a tool that the community chose to ignore. Thank you Zi for your contribution. Just move on to a new game fellas. Find something that you can all enjoy together and start fresh ;)

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