What are the requirements for official server?

Forsaken

03.03.2018 22:46:32Link to post

I have been a part of this community for almost 3 years now and have run a legit server for most of that time. I have brought some US players back to the game, and been a help to the community as much as I could/can which is why I have this question: What exactly are the requirements for becoming an official server?

I have seen servers come and go run by private individuals that have been official after being up for about a month. I asked at one time how to become official, but it seems the 'official' label has no meaning if its not offered to someone who has been hosting a legit server for as long as I have.

Thoughts?


Zi;

Every man is the architect of his own fortune.
04.03.2018 00:00:13Link to post

In my opinion, you have right to be official, you're right, it's kinda mess. I don't really have anything against you, even though there will be still people like sashs and so on, who will come up with 4 years old videos where you used cheat or with video from few months ago when you used cheat in order to improve anticheat scripts... well that's how it goes here, community is really awesome.

Let's see what Freebo has to say.


misterSD

Crysis player & modder
04.03.2018 08:11:30Link to post

One problem with your server is that: you want to allow insults in your servers forsaken (in case, only hack is forbiden in your rules...)
Officials servers can't allow insulters.
So you must add some new rules (like insults not allowed) to pretend official tag.


SashsBrest

04.03.2018 09:54:15Link to post

even though there will be still people like sashs and so on
What?
This is said by the person who gave the aim bot to the Sadam? You sure,i am a bad person?
Do not you like when others tell the truth?
And I will not be silent, I'm afraid of nothing!!!
You forgot? in private messages in skype,i asked you why you are adding cheater Smirnoff to the administrators in all servers,you answered me: it's very funny when other players and administrators hate him,this will make players come to the game,I was silent until the last,but once you decided to make me a bad guy, ok, let everyone know! I have nothing against Forsaken, Ali, or other people who stumbled,they are not bad guys
Freebo says that you probably did not know that the Sadam use hacks ahahah,he just did not mean to offend you,we good remember how you and Sadam test your aim bot in servers,this aim bot you created
Or maybe you forgot,when Smirnoff in the group wrote that he gave you 500 euros? it's his words,and all group saw this message,yes,maybe its really joke,who know








Zi;

Every man is the architect of his own fortune.
04.03.2018 10:51:22Link to post

Sashs, please, keep on topic, this thread is about Forsaken's server, not about Smirnoff again. Smirnoff case has been already resolved, so don't start this again, please.
And about 500€, I've never received any money from things in Crysis, I do all of these things here for free not asking for anything, so I guess he just meant to troll you and you gladly believed him. I can even post internet banking logs here if you don't trust, lol


SashsBrest

04.03.2018 10:55:34Link to post

ok, do not say I'm doing bad things, and I'll be silent,I always upload real videos, and you draw conclusions
Thank you, and sorry if I offended, just emotions


Zi;

Every man is the architect of his own fortune.
04.03.2018 15:44:32Link to post

I didn't say you do bad things, it's really nice you keep track of cheaters and so on, I truly appreciate that! But sometimes it's not so nice when you make fun of people like misterSD and Forsaken with your videos, because they were playing like noobs 4 years ago or used cheats, even though you mean it as jokes. :D

Anyways, Freebo should say his opinion about Forsaken's request now.


SashsBrest

04.03.2018 19:26:46Link to post

I did not make fun of forsaken, I just recorded the video, that he would see that I played fair,nothing more,about MisterSD yes,you know,i very hate chat commands,apparently will have to accept,i'm not angry with him anymore


Freebo

05.03.2018 09:22:56Link to post

Sashs - please don't bring up "Smirnoff" subject here again. Subject doesn't deserve more time. Not worth it. Thank you very much.

Forsaken:
I have been a part of this community for almost 3 years now and have run a legit server for most of that time. I have brought some US players back to the game, and been a help to the community as much as I could/can which is why I have this question: What exactly are the requirements for becoming an official server?

I have seen servers come and go run by private individuals that have been official after being up for about a month. I asked at one time how to become official, but it seems the 'official' label has no meaning if its not offered to someone who has been hosting a legit server for as long as I have.

Thoughts?


Zi:
Let's see what Freebo has to say.


Yes Forsaken we all know you and your contribution to promo of the network in USA section for last 2 years at least. Respect for that because Time Zones are huge problem for European Admins to be on-line for USA players - when we have 8 hours time difference and when they start to play it's already 2AM or 3AM in Europe. So your contribution means a lot. Especially if you can be on-line more often than once a week.

Well The rules of Official servers are here for 3 years at the bottom. Nothing has changed:
/master.php

All is about admins really. Not letting insults and hate spread on Official servers - making sure good atmosphere is there always.

Why admin has to be "trusted"? It's very simple - because untrusted admin can mess with heads of players (who don't know Crysis yet - give them fake info instead of helping to use proper guns or something), he can mess with statistics and after making his server Ranked - he can fake stats and for example make him get more points - or he can even use cheats (only admin knows what is detected on his server and what is not - so he can do it if he is an ahole) on his own server.

This is why there are only 2 servers of users marked as Official now. One is DarkAngel's - who had server for over 2 years before he received Official one - and he was always fair there. Second is misterSD's who was checked moderator for around 2 years, was reporting problems with players - and also worked alone on his server for months and had 24/7 server for a while before receiving Official one. Nobody receives official after 1 week of having 24/7 server.


So Forsaken if you can for test run again your server for - let's say just 8 weeks - and people would check it out, test everything, see how it's working you can receive Official one.

That hacking period from the history ? Comrade had some links to videos about it 2 years ago - you remember the case - and our discussion 2 years ago on early Mesa Nostalgia. It's a past now. So doesn't matter. But it would be nice of you to have your server running for around 8 weeks - and If people say everything is fine there (like it seems now) - it can be marked as official one without any problem.

Remember that having official one is not something everybody need.Because responsibility comes with it - Official - means any new or old player can go there and can be sure that he won't get hate or insults there. It means that hackers will be kicked and banned right after spotting them - and that means anybody would be able to play without fear of those crazy thinks to happen there - He would be able to play without leaving with anger (unless they loose in fair-play fight). This is the problem we had on official servers before - also on Mesa Nostalgia - I have to admit sometimes - because we were allowing insulting. Which will never happen again on official servers starting from spring.

This is why I'm not sure that official server is always comfortable for admins to have - it's a pain in the.... neck. But if you really want to have one....

Remember also that if crazy things start to happen, agains the rules Official can become private again. Which is not a proble. Private servers are sometimes even better - all depends of the atmosphere, interesting things there and admins.

Official - means fair - If admin starts to do crazy things and people see that - and make video about him. Even misterSD would lose official server - and he knows it. Even I can lose it if somebody can show video where I overuse admin commands to win with players in fight or something like that. It has to be fair on those servers. Just simple rule.

One thing which would be important for the network on your server is that we have no official servers in USA area - so ping for us can be a little problem - but if you can thanks to this official server bring some players from States - it makes sense to have it official.

But you have to think about it. Even I don't make some of my servers private type (like my Crazy Truths were and will be private always) to have more freedom of things there and not connect it clearly with the network. Which doesn't mean insults or hacking is allowed there. But more private character sometimes is better.

So think about it. Official is not a "must" thing. But if you see the reason for it. Not a problem. Put your server on for 8 weeks - 24/7 and we will check it - and make it trusted official.

Thanks and good luck.


Forsaken

06.03.2018 23:41:48Link to post

That hacking period from the history ? Comrade had some links to videos about it 2 years ago - you remember the case - and our discussion 2 years ago on early Mesa Nostalgia. It's a past now. So doesn't matter. But it would be nice of you to have your server running for around 8 weeks - and If people say everything is fine there (like it seems now) - it can be marked as official one without any problem.


I have already posted evidence of someone using my logged in ID in MY server. But you still say I was hacking?

One problem with your server is that: you want to allow insults in your servers forsaken (in case, only hack is forbiden in your rules...)
Officials servers can't allow insulters.
So you must add some new rules (like insults not allowed) to pretend official tag.


Mister, I gave you and everyone else my opinion on this in discord, and its in the general chat if anyone wants to go read it.


I shouldn't need a 'trial' period for a server, for obvious reasons... my US servers will be back online sometime after the 20th of this month.


Freebo

07.03.2018 11:11:21Link to post

I have already posted evidence of someone using my logged in ID in MY server. But you still say I was hacking?

Sorry I don't know what you're talking about. And I didn't want to return to it but since you've asked:
I'm talking about that period when we were on Mesa Nostalgia in Early 2016 it was before your server started to show up - two years ago - we were there live - and Comrade brought links to the videos of "Forsaken hacking" on HS servers and his IP there was shown. I don't remember who made the videos - Sashs maybe ? but it's not on his channel. I don't know when video was recorded exactly. But I downloaded it 2 years ago during that Mesa Nostalgia conversation - and have it on some old disc - can't find it in 1 minute - no need for that - So we saw those videos and that IP of hacker there - and while we were talking about it and you were on server - In real time I checked your IP and it was 100% indentical with that hacking guy on the video. We asked you about it the same minute - and told you about the IP and Your answer to that was "I wasn't hacking" or "It wasn't me"...(I can search for that log but I don't have time - no need) this is where people start to say you were hacking. It has nothing to do with your ID or even with YOUR server. That's all about it - since you've asked.

But what I'm saying is - it doesn't matter now after 2 years... and after your contribution to USA community during last 2 years - so no sense to bring it back. Let's close this chapter and move on.

I shouldn't need a 'trial' period for a server, for obvious reasons... my US servers will be back online sometime after the 20th of this month.


You always need a 'trial' period before becoming official admin - because many people were not on your server even once. For example I was there maybe once - and never checking it in terms of official server. So yes. It should be on-line for a while before becoming official. Just like any others had to for at least few months - including HS and FairPlay servers which were known and tested for around 3 years! (not just 2 months) before even GameSpy was closed. 8 weeks 'trial' period in terms of "fair play" and fair rules is really nothing. I'm sure it's not a problem for you at all. It's not even spring yet.

But then again - official server doesn't mean any "prominent rank" - it means that admins have more work and responsibility - I don't recommend it if somebody want to be free to act, say and do whatever he wants on his server. He shouldn't "scare away" people from official server. So think about it - if it's worth your time to adjust some things if needed. If it was for me - because of many reasons at least 2 of my servers will still stay "private".

Thanks and good luck.


SashsBrest

07.03.2018 11:13:42Link to post

I don't remember who made the video - Sashs maybe ?
No,its not me. For 3 years i never seen that forsaken use cheats,its old video


MONSTER

03.06.2018 18:19:16Link to post

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Zi;

Every man is the architect of his own fortune.
03.06.2018 22:36:33Link to post

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