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  • Freebo

    Wow... \"Sweet and simple\" DSnipeFunk. Your post is so full of contrasts - it\'s almost beautiful ! :) First of all you don\'t check forums and than when there are lot of posts - you are 2 lazy (?) to read at least 50% of them beacuse it requires some respect and time - so you even \"won\'t bother\" to read - but sure - you bother to say that \"community is dead\" :) - This is how you show you respect to the community of modders and programmers that left here :) I\'m afraid this is what I\'d call 100% of ignorance. So you were talking about yourself though. Please stop this destructive actions right now. We work for Crysis and will do it in the future. If you are here to spread negative vibe - your proposition to move to new game is perfect and you should do it as soon as possible. Please look for some more fresh game and have fun instead of working on things and trying to save them. I\'m sure we will stay here. I agree with you about ignorance. Because ignorance always was, is and will be the most negative thing I see in people\'s minds. It\'s the most destructive thing also. So talking about ignorance of others and being ignorant yourself - seems so... ignorant (?). Please DSnipeFunk don\'t \"bother\" anymore to desturb conversations while we are still trying to build things for Crysis, make them better and better for the future. If all our works seems useless for you - start something fresh. Don\'t forget that this forum is about Crysis - and talking about leaving Crysis for other games - here ? Are you serious ? You couldn\'t be more ignorant than this. BTW Please show some respect by not showing your fake \"respect\" to Zi. We don\'t work for money like GameSpy and like \"someone BIG\" would. We care about our community, not about 1000 of ignorant players. Looks like you can\'t understand it - so please go and start \"fresh\". \"Sweet and simple\" :)

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  • Zi;

    If all guys who signed-up here at forum also played (214 users), it would be more than awesome, maybe better than with original GameSpy, where were 130 players, but most of this guys just doesn\'t play because of logics: This server is empty, I won\'t join. And with this logics, nobody connects ever.

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  • Stefan

    True.

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  • Freebo

    Exactly. This is why we talk about \"Crysis MP Days\" during the week. Not just setting the day and promoting it - but also entering the server and waiting there for others. When somebody checks servers list and thre are 2-3 players there - he enters. No matter if players who are waiting for him are playing that time or just talking there, jumping or just being AFK. After 20 minutes we will have there 5-7 players. I was testing this thing years ago on few lonely servers - the time when on other popular servers were 20-30 players. Almost every time someone joined IA server where I was waiting. Soon it will work like that here. So the thing is very simple: (1). Set Crysis MP Days (decide finally what day is best in autumn/winter/spring) (2). Promote Crysis Days / Hours on websites, portals and Youtube trailers (after trailers will be ready) (3). Few of us (admins, modders - those who care the most) should be ALWAYS on-line on some server (both versiosn) during Crysis MP Day / Hours (for example 3-5 hours on Friday\'s or Sunday\'s evening always waiting on some server). Without us on-line on the list people from outside will never belive that we still play. They will not join. I can promise to be on-line for at least 4-5 hours 1 day a week - starting in September. But we have to know for sure what day would be the best for it. I\'m sure it will work after some time. I know at least 3-4 of us who can say waiting - the way I can. Now - let\'s make finall versions of servers, mods, maps, patches, client - till the end of the month and start using it all in September when most of people will be at home finally :)

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  • Zi;

    At the upcoming client, the problem with shadows of entities spawned through LevelDesigner will be solved. :) So that is one of things to look forward too, it already works, just last optimizations. :) Also you can come with us sometimes to speed run event, it takes like 30 minutes to pass it though, see screens: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6ib11st69hkshja/AABrCL_ubndK-RPTW9qH1pfza It is always possible to pass it, though it looks impossible from screens.

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  • Freebo

    1. Amazing finally made it :) Shadows for spawned LD objects. I wonder if I can update it shadows on my Server Side Maps. Great tool for the future of Crysis though. Nice 2. Looking great. Mirror\'s Edge\'s random Speed Run Maps in Crysis :) If you ask me - I can try it tomorrow (saturday).

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  • DSnipeFunk

    Thank you, Zi. This was exactly my point. I would like to address two powerful words used by Freebo - ignorance and respect. IGNORANCE Freebo - your problem is (and this is where you are ignorant) is that you define yourselves (the modders and programmers) as \'the community\'. As a matter of fact you are the remnants of a community that once existed, because you fail to mention the entire fanbase that made up 80-90% of the entire Crysis community - those who have abandoned Crysis all together. When you have 80-90% that abandons a community - those who filled your servers - those who used your mods - this renders \'the community\' as \'dead\'. This is a fact - you have to live with it. In no way did I attack you or the work of your fellow modders and programmers. I would appreciate that you take back your unfounded accusations. RESPECT I have a lot of respect for you modders and programmers. I happen to know Zi for some time now, and he can vouch for my positive contribution to \'the community\'. In case you did not know, I have been a member of one of Crysis\' top servers for a number of years now. I was invited by Extreme Replays owner - a good friend of Zi - to join their ranks. As you should know - Extreme Replay has been ranked n.1 numerous times over the last years - and we have been considered (by the fan-base itself) one of the fairest communities out there. Further more, you do recall that episode last year of server attacks between rival servers. The server attacks that caused Extreme Replay, GerCry, your own servers, to be forced offline at random intervals. The server attacks that caused server owners to shut down their servers permanently and other big rivals to consider it. Crysis would have been dead long before the Gamespy shutdown if I did not take it upon MYSELF and intervene to mediate a solution between all affected servers - which I managed to do successfully. I am not someone small in the Crysis community - I earned my place and don\'t intend to give it up. Everything I represent in Crysis is \'positive\' - but we all have to live with the facts and if you modders and programmers choose to try and revive Crysis, I support you all the way, but I am not optimistic and I have the right to my opinion. You should take no offense in that.

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  • Freebo

    DSnipeFunk - you are right in a way :) - and sure you can have your opinion. The only main reason of my post there was to tell that saying on this forum that we should move somewhere to play other games - is the worst thing you can do. This sounds ignorant to me - no matter what you have done before. It matters how you finish your mission not how you start it. You talk about my mods. Don\'t worry I don\'t have to \"deal\" with loss of players because of Very High settings and downloadable mods - I had always only about 20 players on maps that included mods. So belive me or not GameSpy\'s death is not affecting my mods and those advanced maps at all (I will work on that stuff for next 6 months for sure). It\'s another thing. The only, real problem now is that after over 3 years of searching in internet - finally I someone (Zi) finally make possible for LevelDesigner, Server Side Maping and great SSM for 5767. I\'ve started to work on it 5 months ago - finally all was possible. It was right before message about Game Spy\'s over 3 months ago. This is sad and this is real pain for myself. This is what I had to deal with now not the number of players of my mods - it hasn\'t changed :). But still. I always needed map autodowloader to make Crysis more flexible. I couldn\'t make it possible for years. NOW thanks to sending idas to Zi it finally works. Now - like never before Crysis can be really alive. It can change each week. So I will never agree to say that the community that you talk about is dead. I still know at least 10 people who will play this game from time to time. But if you talk about old players those who were gone 2 years ago or those who were playing 2 months ago and left now. It\'s not real community the way I see them. If someone loves the game he will play it even if it requires hard actions :) Most of players in Crysis before GameSpy\'s shut down were using cracked Crysis instead of buying it for 10$. Do you really call them community ? Most were playing here only because they could play on LOW settings. They were just killing some time. I know the story about ranked servers. I know the story about cracked ones also. Hard to tell who can be called the community here. You have different vision and your kind of community is dead. I always had different ideas for the future of Crysis (with smaller amount of players) and this community is not dead. This is why I posted that message before.. You have right to have your opinion. But I can\'t agree that you have right to go here and say things like \"What are you doing here guys, No sense, Let\'s leave it,\" You call it respect for those who still work on the project ? Zi is still making new versions of client. Amazing solutions. Your negative posts can easy make all crash in one day. No offense. I respect when people say what they think. It shows that they are not so ignorant at all. Respect for that. Thank for answering. We just have different visions of this game. For me it was always more that just a game - and with new tools we have it will be even better. Thank\'s to Zi\'s solution it can be alive not only on my 3 Crysis PCs at home (where always can be played even after world\'s internet crash\" but also all over the world. I won\'t leave it still the last player and will promote it even in 2015 - you will see 100% new YT channels about it soon. 10 nice players in Crysis is always better than 10.000 that I can meet in BF3/4 each day. It\'s really worth trying and being positive about it :) Sorry for my point of view - I respect yours.

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  • DSnipeFunk

    I respect your opinion - but to a certain extent I have to disagree with you ;) I think the issue here is a confusion between \'community\' and \'vision\'. The community that included 150+ frequent players just before the Gamespy has now less than 10+ players and 98% of the time the servers are empty. So yes - its pretty much dead. The \'vision\' on the other hand - your \'vision\' - is very much alive. You all have a distinct hunger to revive the community. No doubt about that. I hope you achieve your ambitions - I really do. Categorizing players based on them having a legitimately acquired copy of Crysis (such as myself) or who cracked their copy (such as the majority of the Crysis players) is irrelevant. They love the game the same and is what drives you all to do what you do best - mods and programming for their and your entertainment.

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  • Freebo

    Ok. I can agree with most of that ;) I think you are right about \"community\"/\"vision\" part. We can call it this way as you do. Let\'s just be more positive if not about the old Crysis (it\'s true - the only way to mak it return as it was before is possible only by EA with patch provided by Origin or Steam with the copy of game - and we all know this is hard to belive) - so let\'s be positive at least about new life of Crysis - the one that is coming. I don\'t say that new kind of community will grow fast and will be as big as it was before - also that it will happen next month or this year - but in early 2015 - when all things will be prepared, tested and well promoted - why not? Anyway I\'m sure that soon it will be much better than now. No matter what. Thanks a lot for your answers. I\'m glad we can agree on things.

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